at that point. he's proud of that. his whole appeal to republican voters is that he's a guy who will create tumult. that he will end the sort of barack obama period of sort of peaceful conversation, which they, that is republican conservatives and activists, think high and radical obama agenda that's clothed in the language of reasonableness, and that mitt romney is going to be the -- excuse me, newt gingrich is going to be the guy who's going to rip that mask of civility off and get down to tumult making. that's what they want and that's why newt was proud to give it to them. >> well, it's a great yiddish term. i shouldn't be the one to join in with that one, but there is one called a tumuler. one of those guys from the old days, one of the guys to shake things up on a rainy day. >> but that was about comedy, chris. that was about comedy and having fun in the catskills. that's not like this. >> this guy seeks to be a real one. let me get back to you, david korn, about this, this guy being