>> in this case idaho has won a national championship before. >> national championship that gingrich -- he made it to the final four. he didn't make the championship. >> i'm talking about newt engineered historic, legislative landslide. he has been a national figure. he's been "time" magazine's person of the year. he has been there before. i think he's going to collapse over time. that said, mika, he has been to the top. he has had his -- as this column says -- >> he was governor. i just think that -- >> there is nothing like being on a national stage and being beaten up every day politically like newt gingrich has. he hasn't learned his lessons. we'll see if he has a second time. but i want to go back to the point of fox news. he's been on fox news as mark said for such a long time, and fox news drives primary voters. republican primary voters because they all, you know, they