crowds and now he's up there. so there's no reason why he can't experience the same update. >> it's easy to get lost in these crowds. >> thank you so much. appreciate the opportunity. thank you. >> we appreciate it. again, alex, as we've just heard, that announcement should be made at 1:00 today. herman cain, the team on the ground, left an hour ago. it was a significant meeting he had last night. of course, the first meeting with his wife of 43 years, gloria. the first time that the two have met face-to-face since the allegations were made by that woman, ginger white, who acknowledged that she had an affair with herman cain for more than a decade. >> nbc's peter alexander. appreciate that. we invite all of you to stay with msnbc. the announcement will occur here at 1:00 p.m. stay with that. and jerry sandusky gave an extensive interview with the new