>> no. i thought at the time, look, i was a private citizen. i wasn't contemplating public life. >> see? i never understand that with people who say, well, i wasn't contemplating -- because i hear that all the time. as a private citizen, i said something i actually believed. i've never understood this about politicians. you can go back to where i was in 1992 when i was a democrat and i was saying the same thing in '92 as i was saying in '94 as i was saying as a lawyer in 2002 as i was saying as a guy on the night time show. ann, you look back at what gingrich has said. time and time again, 1989 bragging he's a rockefeller republican. in -- actually in 1998 the last speech he gave on the house floor when he attacked people like me, and tom coburn calling us jihadists. on the couch with nancy pelosi. the flip-flops are mind