that will help them get their agenda, get their causes through washington. and, you know, and there was also the whole for-profit health care think tank that newt gingrich had. he's no longer associated with. the center for health transformation. you take a company like novo nordisk, for diabetes, they were paying $200,000 a year for 6 years to the center for health transformation. what were they getting out of this? a lot of access, a lot of advice from newt gingrich. he was lending his name and his celebrity to some of their causes. he was the keynote speaker of their diabetes summit and his name was on their press releases commending the company for being a leader in fighting diabetes. again, these are all -- i mean, nobody is for diabetes, but these are all causes that whatever the other matters, they were good for norva's better