these girls to avoid getting caught. >> but for all of his apparent cold-bloodedness, there are those who believe killers like michael ross can be useful. >> the michael rosses of the world are not just trying to beat the rap. they really are ill and we need to treat them not only from the criminal justice perspective but perspective, as well. this is a question of using him to understand more about serial killers so that it can be prevented. >> so i look for other michael rosses and i look for abuse where other michael rosses are out there and i think we've got to try to prevent them. >> i don't care he wet his bed when he was nine years old or his father had to take him out to the wood shed. this guy murdered eight women with no remorse. >> and in this brief telephone interview with crime trial, michael ross says no matter what