into securities that were sold around the world in a casino-style economy. the rest of us were held off and it fell apart. they say who was it that said i don't remember? they all said this. perry might have too. they wanted to get rid of every single regulation that affects business? >> i appreciate your revisionist history there, but the government -- let me make may point and you can jump on me all day long. >> david, let me speak. >> the government was a nome sitting in the corner as call street trounced all over and trounced all over the banking market. look, if anything, be honest and say this was a collaborative effort by both government and private sectors. >> michael. >> i know you love government,