than joe. there's the abuses of jerry sandusky and also, people are talking about a cover-up. these are the big pieces of this whole scandal. >> there are a will the of folks out there, a lot of folks out there nine kids right now, the ninth came forward yesterday, who claimed they were abused by sandusky. all of this happens on paterno's watch and joe-pa doesn't go to the police. he goes to the administration. there are a lot of folks who think the coach should have gone to the cops. >> i'd like to make a correction there. that was not during joe pa's watch. jerry sandusky was no longer under the authority of coach paterno. when the situation happened, you know, joe paterno went to the university, okay, this is a university matter. no longer a football matter for joe. and when joe went to the