but actually the better fight was four years later. the thriller in manila, yeah. if frazier did not answer the bell in the 15th, and yet ali said it was the closest i ever came to dying. >> to death. >> listen to this. dave anderson today, who knows a thing or two about boxing in new york city said this. some people mean more together than they do apart. whatever the stage. churchill and hitler. bogart and bacall. ali and frazier. for all the deserved accolades for muhammad ali i've always believed that at his best joe frazier who died monday at the age of 67 was the better fighter and the better man. >> wow. >> if you've ever seen that documentary, and of course nobody went around praising joe frazier after his career was over. just went to the sidelines. but those documentaries are so sad when joe frazier would try to hand ali money when he couldn't get a fight and help him out.