whether it's healthy in the long wrong is stressful. >> they had a situation where the actual ledger really is dire. it's not -- because there's so much hype here about greece, it's important for people to understand. the numbers are incredibly different. they are borrowing at 15%, not 0%. they have a primary deficit. they don't have enough to pay their interest. >> draw parallel to the united states. >> they don't have control. >> when you want to get out, you can do one of three things, inflation -- >> explain the options. explain your way out of it. austerity, a bad end gate. >> we are going to be here in six months. >> it's about who bears the burden, not about getting out of trouble. in religious terms, they call it the jubilee, the restrukturing of the debt.