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i'm trying to figure the motive. it would seem to be -- i don't want to speculate, because i always speculate in my mind, but i don't want to do it here, as to who would gain from the fall of herman cain? i don't think the liberals would be after him at this point. he doesn't look like the nominee. but who would be after him would be a fellow conservative who's competing with him to go on against mitt romney. that doesn't tell you who did it, it simply gives you a possible motive for someone. >> and you heard herman cain today call it a witch hunt, and obviously conservatives are blaming it on the liberal media. but i will say, i think there have been rumors about this swirling around his campaign, swirling around press organizations. and you know, kudos to you, j-mar, for breaking this thing -- >> you mean rumors of this particular nature, the harassment issue? >> yes, this particular incident. specifically, that j-mar so masterfully reported on in politico. my ex-colleague, hats off to you. >> thank you. >> but no smoking gun.

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