but congress has ultimately got to make the decision. and the ball really is in our court. >> mark? >> and when we came out with our gang of six plan, he endorsed it. that helped in some corners, hurt in others. i wish he spent the first three months of this year frankly just educating the american people and all of us about some of these choices. some of this is just math in terms of some of the entitlement programs. the fact that some of this revenue is at 70-year low, revenue expenditures. and whenever there's been a balanced budget, we've been around 20% on both spending and revenues. you know, this is just logic. and the one thing you'll be able to see if they're really getting close is if you start seeing the interest groups on both sides start squawking. that'll be the best indication around if the super committee's getting close -- >> so saxby, you and i came in '95 along with a guy named tom