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herman cain who is on top with 23%. mitt romney at 22%. who is the republican most likely to challenge president obama? >> i don't think we have any idea. the world series just ended friday night, but to use a baseball term, we may be in the first inning of this. so this is going to have a lot of twists and turns. and in iowa, which we know a little something about, you know, what matters is can you identify your supporters. can you get them to the caucus? the next 60 days is going to be a fascinating period in politics. but the key thing is, no matter who we run against, they are operating the same economic policies that led to the great recession, that led to destruction of middle-class security and incomes. and that's going to be the fundamental question in front of us. >> is herman cain for real as a candidate? >> you know, i really am not an expert in republican primary politics. he seems to have tapped into something. what i find interesting is that mitt romney continues to have 75%, 80% of his party looking somewhere else. and so it will be interesting to see if he can turn that around. >> will he be a diminished candidate if he's the nominee? >> well, here's -- we'll see what happens in the primary.

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