restraint in protecting these people. they're supposed to protect us, number one. and they were not in imminent danger, but they certainly put everybody in the crowd in imminent danger. >> are you saying that, josh, that you think the police overreacted? >> certainly. and their mere presence elevated the tension. and judging by the reports of what it may have cost the city of oakland to put on such a show of force, it's extremely just confusing to me. at such a time in our economy and our nation. >> joshua, give us a sense of the demeanor of the crowd. were they provoked in any way? because of the position of the police? or how did it explode into something like this? >> well, i had been down to occupy oakland prior to the raid early on tuesday morning.