management position is imposed without an arbitrator, it's collective begging and not bargaining and my friend john is wrong. >> i want you to come back. you and i are going to have a discussion about the jobs bill. >> i hate the jobs bill. >> i'm going to make you love the jobs bill. putting people to work in this country is what it is all about. >> if the jobs bill did that, i'd be in favor of it. >> all right. we'll come back and talk to you. bill cunningham, thanks for being with us tonight. let's turn to nina turner and chris redford, chairman of the democratic party. a debate just moments ago concluded in ohio on this issue. issue number two. and state senator keith faber said this about public employees. i want your reaction. here it is. >> you know, most private sector employees don't get a lifetime guaranteed mention that in many cases has a value in excess of $1 million. it's time to level the playing field. it's time to put the taxpayers at the table and that's why these discussions are important. >> senator turner, what about that?