stamps or public programs that help poor families. one lawmaker in ohio is trying to make bankers and other recipients of government money in ohio live by the same standards being asked of the poor. joining us tonight for the interview, ohio state representative robert hagan, a democrat from youngstown, ohio. mr. hagan, appreciate your time tonight. thanks for being here. >> you're welcome. thank you for allowing me to tell the rest of the country how insensitive and ridiculous my republican colleagues are in the legislature. >> ohio is one of the states around the country where republican lawmakers are pushing forced drug testing for poor people applying for public assistance. what do you think is motivating that. >> rachel, there's a couple things that motivate that. let me first start out by saying our governor, john kasich, worked for lehman brothers. and you and every, pretty much all your people, the viewers know that lehman brothers went under. he was the vice president of lehman brothers. wall street started to go under. bankers, banking started to go under. so they asked and begged for