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the old establishment of the republican party wins again. >> yeah, and i think that's probably the most likely scenario, except watching it sort of from the outside, like you're saying, i would put a little different spin on it. i think if romney comes through this process and wins the nomination, yeah, he's the establishment candidate, but i still think in a way, the tea party's won in a very significant way, if that happens. because when you look at mitt romney, we call him sort of the moderate candidate in this race. we're calling him that because in massachusetts, you know, a decade ago, two decades ago, he definitely was a moderate. and we're calling him that because of the health care plan. and because in this campaign, he's been a little less, you know, willing to go and throw all the red meat out there, unlike in 2008. so that's why we're calling him a moderate. but when you look at his actual positions on every issue, right down the line, you know, what they're going to build the republican party platform on next september, i really don't see any differences between what the mitt romney republican party platform would look like next september and what the rick perry or even michele bachmann republican party platform would look like. you know, he's got the health care thing in massachusetts, but

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