60s, what is the most stirring image of all of the rebellion that happened, what do we remember? i'm not saying somebody has to get killed -- but there will be a climax moment of class warfare somehow played out on screen that i think will the same way 9-9-9, if you will, kind of simplifies a message, that articulates this clash. so both the real clarification in terms of policy and, unfortunately, some imagery says to america, and i think those are the two things -- >> we hope. >> i'm saying something that we are a visual society that visualizes -- >> i would hope and i'm sure the police officers around this country understand it. >> unfortunately, it's going to come to that. >> there are great people out there that are protesting what's going on, but there are also some provocateurs who are trying to do something so they can -- let's hope that doesn't happen.