that time there probably was no hope of resuscitating michael jackson. >> conrad murray's mistress taking the stand, the mom of his toddler son. he gave her money for rent. do you think this witness will reveal interesting secrets about the doctor? >> we know there is a big secret out there and that is if she is indeed the person who was getting the propofol shipped to her. i mean, why isn't it being shipped to the doctor's office? this is a bad situation for conrad murray. >> in your estimation of watching how this is moving forward, how is the defense doing? how is the prosecution doing? >> well, it's the prosecution's case and they are doing well. they should be doing well. the only way the defense gets out of this case is if they have really sterling experts, and i do have a great deal of respect for ed chernoff as a lawyer. i think he's terrific, but it's going to be an expert or nothing. >> rikki klieman, great to see you, thanks. news about chris christie, his