>> roy, who had served his time at a different prison than ray, had been out for four months at the time of our visit. but after nearly 20 years of incarceration, much of it in solitary confinement, he was still struggling with the transition to the free world. >> you go from a pecking order type mentality into an economic society, and it's tough, it really is, because everybody is wearing the same clothes, everything is uniform. it don't matter about what type of car you drive, what type of house you live in, how much money you got. that's kind of irrelevant in prison because it's a pecking order society. it's the strong, you know, and that's how you survive. >> before i met him, all i had was this image of this gruff, ripped guy who could take on the whole team of officers, and upon meeting him i was shocked to find out that he's actually kind of a calm and collected guy who is not this monster that you see on these cell extraction videos.