executioner. but someone does. someone somewhere in a kindergarten class in this country today is going to grow up to be an executioner. no one hopes that for any student in any american classroom today. no one wants that. we don't know who the actual executioner of troy davis was last night. that information is not released. that person lives with this knowledge, goes home with this knowledge, goes home to his or her children with this knowledge. what, what are we doing to those people? joining me now, jeannie woodford, the executive director of death penalty focus opposing capital punishment. she's a former warden at san quentin prison, where she oversaw four executions. thanks for joining me tonight. >> thanks for having me.