>> so does she. that's what she said as ale. >> i don't think the u.s. -- just hang on one minute. i don't think that the u.s. right now, the suffering in the u.s. economy and of the u.s. middle class is chiefly because the u.s. >> i never said that. >> on the wrong end of a trade deal. i think overall the u.s. has benefited hugely from the opening of global markets since the second world war. that's one of the reasons that -- >> to that end, how do you quantify the 50 million in poverty, 22% of our children who do not have food works do not have functionality, so, in other words -- >> the benefits of trade i would say -- >> the benefits have gom gone to some and anilation, 100 million people works needs them? is that the plan? >> i think it's more complicated. >> free trade has made goods cheaper for everybody. >> screw the poor people. >> that's not insignificant. >> it is significant if the way you got the cheaper goods was by indebting krur country by trillions of dollars while simultaneously destroying the