but so many people down here are not. how -- that is not a capital society that's working. >> so i've been listening all day. and what i hear is that there is wealth at the top and there's less at the bottom, right? and there is a growing disparity. let me ask you a question. a very basic question. i don't understand it. isn't our democracy about the ability to create wealth? >> and by the way, i've seen figures used any which way. here's the factor of the matter. corporations today pay 39.2% federal income tax on average. it is the second highest in developed countries around the world. individuals who are wealthy, i don't mean $200,000 families, i mean, over $1 million family incomes. they pay 24.6% of the taxes, federal tax only. when you add to that, what they pay to the state, what they pay to the local government, 50 cents on every dollar goes to