it actually fit all the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women." and look at this quote from christine romer, the former chairman of the council of economic advisers. according to ron suskind, the author, she thought she was purposely excluded during one meeting with larry summers. he quotes her as saying, "i felt like a piece of meat." both women have since denied saying these things to suskind. well, there's on old phrase in british politics, they would, wouldn't they, deny it. so if they're loyal and they may have said it in all kinds of context, they may not have said it. how do you put this together? you've done a good job of covering this white house. >> well, i haven't read the book. i don't want to trash someone else's -- >> what about the charges? >> what would worry me as an author, a writer, is actually the small stuff more than these quotes. people deny quotes. obviously they're pushing back very hard on that. the factual stuff, that will keep me up at night in a cold sweat.