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just the technique and campaigns of tearing down the reputation of your opponent, negative advertising. i never knew that. you know, i referred to gerald ford, who was the incumbent president, as my distinguished opponent. and he referred to me that way. i did the same thing four years later with ronald reagan. and we didn't even accept any campaign contributions. it's hard to believe. but we just took the $2 per person on income tax returns, and that's all we spent on our general election. so it's a total environment. >> when you mentioned the interest of funds -- of campaign funds but also lobbyist funds, one of the things i marked to talk to you about today was when you noted in 1977, you're working on your energy legislation and you are getting a lot done, as you say, a great batting average, but you're frustrated that the energy piece is not moving forward, and you say "it's become obvious to me," this is on october 13th, 1977, "it's become obvious to me that we've had too much of my own

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