any surrogate to be in front of this with him as the chief messenger. he's going around the country. he's going to be the lead on this. and i think that's going to make the difference on whether or not somebody's going to decide, should i pick up and call my congressperson and say, support the president's bill. >> jeff, the president's jobs bill pushed, the new numbers in from the census bureau showing the u.s. poverty rate has risen to 15.1%. that's the highest in 27 years. when we get down to the hard numbers, that's about 46.2 million people. or nearly one in six considered to be in poverty. that's upticking from 43.6% in '09. so did this lend itself greater urgency to the bill getting approved, cutting through what is considered to be this major stalemate in washington between the left and the right? >> well, the question is really going to be, can the gop look beyond politics and really see the humanity of the people in the united states? i don't think that anybody, regardless of their party,