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about this, you're in charge of converting that issue into electoral gains for democrats. i know you're confident you can do that. does that also apply to social security? are democrats planning to draw a line between a democratic plan to protect social security and republicans putting it at risk? >> this election in 2012 is going to be very much a referendum. do you want a crowd dedicated to terminating medicare, privatizing social security, or do you want a majority of democrats who are going to promote pro-growth agenda, create jobs and protect medicare and social security. and i have to say, rachel, we found a new ally in this fight, surprise me, but rick perry. he calls social security a ponzi scheme. i give him credit. he is honest. he unmasked what the republicans sought to do. they talk about strengthening social security, he told the truth. he believes it is a ponzi scheme and they want to end social

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