standpoint it's a good move. it will look like he's a guy that can manage disaster and talk to the public. i think he's going to do very well in the debate. he's one of those guys that doesn't try to win a debate, but he tries to not lose a debate. you'll see a very disciplined message guy who's going to say the same thing over and over regardless of the question. i think he will do quite well, and i expect him to be there. >> he bullet pointed his answer when it came to the economy. here's romney waiving a 150-page booklet. and here's rick perry, keep it simple stupid. is that going to work with the tea party? is romney out of this? >> i think what it's going to come down to for the two candidates, you're going to be faced with a couple guys bragging about the size of their tax cuts. rick is going to be saying, mine's bigger, i'm going to free up corporations, i'm not going