it was from the king's county or brooklyn, new york, district attorney's office. i didn't understand what they were looking for because i personally, i was never aware of the tissue harvesting business. so i said to michael, my initial reaction is what are you doing? you can do this? this sounds like something that's out of a frankenstein movie, to be quite honest with you, i felt the same way that everybody else felt when they first heard about it. then he explained to me, yes, it's done everyday, this is a legal business. and then i began to do my own research on the industry. so that was my first meeting with michael. >> like any case, if you don't know it, you have to educate yourself. if it's a medical case, you have to speak to a medical doctor. if it's a bone case, you have to speak to the people who process bone. then i learned it was legal. so it became like, well, i didn't know that. but let me take a look at it. it's been documented you cannot