we don't have the autoclaves and sonic sterilizers and that stuff they have out there on the new needles, stuff like that. proper sterilization techniques. it's a part of the prison culture. it's a big part of the culture. it's a legitimate trade on the streets, and if they would promote it here, it would be a pretty good trade. people would get out of here licensed. somebody for two years before out there. but if we get that done here, people can get out, go out there, make money legitimately. i think if they just let us do it, it would be a really positive thing. coming up on "lockup: >> if i wanted to be a political sorry, george. >> one inmate kills time with president bush and his budget