have a press conference with secretary mavis and secretary chu to announce something that we think is exciting in terms of job growth. when you talk about the foot stamp program, you have to recognize the economic stimulus. every dollar of snap benefits generates $1.84 in the economy. if people are able to buy a little more in the grocery store, someone has to stock it, shelve it, process it, sack it, ship it. all of those are jobs. the most direct stimulus you can get in the economy during these tough times. the reason the numbers have gone up is we've done a number of jobs in the states in getting word out about this program. states like florida, california, texas we're working with them to make sure they're getting the benefits. >> governor, pat buchanan here. i go back to the mid 1960s when the lbj began the program, '64,