>> from an iowa perspective you watch this more closely than all of us. how do you think it plays to the audience here in iowa which is exactly what counts when we're talking about the straw poll is this. >> i think charlie's right that pawlenty had to do something to improve the numbers. yooi yeah appears to be just not that into him. he needed to do something to move him up. michele bachmann we saw her catapult to the top of the leader board. anybody envying that was going to have to enhance their position or bring her down and we saw candidates doing both. >> what about rick perry showing up in south carolina tomorrow. going to be beclairing, coming to iowa after a stop in new hampshire. iowa on sunday, this really is such a smart play, is it not to grab attention from ames? >> i think it's a little bit of a question mark. there are veteran gop operatives who are sal rating to get rick perry in the race because he's a sitting governor from a big state with a very good story to tell on jobs.