part of the problem, just to go back one second more, part of the problem with that approach, it object secures more serious problems with a candy like bachmann, who, for example, has, with romney, made public the least detail about what she would do if she were president about the economy right now. let's talk about that kind of thing. >> i hate that i agree with him, but i do. >> on that happy agreeable notes -- >> it's okay, karen. other people do it. >> we're civil. that's the problem. >> thank you both. >> well, 10,000 extra police officers did calm the streets of london, but not some of the rest of the country. following the worst riots the city has seen in more than 30 years, unrest continued to spread across england as brazen crowds of young people ransacked stores and toorched cars for a fourth night.