this down below 9%, and get it to the more robust. >> john harwood from washington, thank you. >> so, in other words, the markets points. >> martz dropped 50 points why you and i talked the last 50 seconds i. blame it on you. >> thanks. i'll take it. a lot of attention given to the phone hacking allegations given to rupert murdoch here in america. a larger assault may be going on you may not be at familiar with. cyber hackers attacked companies like google, morgan stanley and security giant rsa. who is to blame for this? believe it or not, fingers are being pointed at china as the ca culpr culprit. for more, an old friend, contributing eder to "vanity fair" magazine. first and foremost, we've all heard the term cyber hacker. what is a cyber hacker and what do they do? >> we are looking at a problem that began about a decade ago