when he's putting together a budget. so, you know, it was -- an event that i think is really going to leave a bad taste in the mouth of catholics. >> steve, i think navigating religious politics in america at the presidential level is easy, some pretty half-witted candidates have managed to do it. i think the whole point of this is if he can't get it straight at this point, he doesn't deserve to be in the presidential race. steve kruger, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, no matter what you think congress has done, it is not the end of the world, because whatever stupid thing congress does, it can undo. but jerry lewis being bumped off the telethon? that is the end of the world as we know it. jerry's friend richard belzer is here, and as usual this friday