he went out there and got rid of $6 billion bucks worth of subsidies and grover norquist had the guts to callhat a tax increase, and tom said, one of his great allies, grover would be irrelevant in two years, he can't miss, but he's a good guy with a very bad idea, and he went and gathered up all those signatures when they were strewing roses in the pathways out here. grover comes up sign this. why would anyone sign anything before they heard the debate, before they read the documents, before they did anything? but i'll tell you about grover, if he's more powerful than the president of the united states, when coburn nailed him, he said if you're calling that a tax increase when you take away $6 billion ethanol, that's ludicrous and also deceptive and when we're digging into those tax expenditures and grover and his happy warriors are trying to call that a tax increase, that's a damn lie and he knows it.