securities industry, the stock market and businesses and everybody else will be simply severely hurt by huge increases in interest and other costs. >> congressman, as you look at your colleagues, as you look at speaker boehner and what he had to do so far to date and the difficult positions many have observed he has been put in, in the years you served in congress, have you seen a speaker put in such hardship, if you will, by his own party? >> i've never seen anything like this before. i've never seen a country so put under threat by a group of irresponsible people and never seen a situation where a speaker was so thoroughly repudiated by his own people, particularly on matters where we could resolve the matter fairly simply. the reid plan would give us more time. will make significant large cuts and will see to it we protect