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with, you know, the majority of democrats and a few republicans, i doubt that that's going to happen, but that's a possibility, but we're not going to let us default, number one, and i doubt that we'll go past and even if we did go a day or two, the fact is they're having enough revenue increases to go a day or two or three or four more. >> is that most important message because of all the hysteria? >> yeah. look -- there's hysteria out there because people don't like the unknown, but the unknown really isn't the most important thing. it's we're going belly up and passing this extension doesn't help that problem, and until we get everybody talking about the right thing, which is how do we downsize and scope and in breadth and excess, the federal government still meet the needs of those depending on us and do it in a way that allows to to continue to borrow until we can finish doing the downside, that's the important thing.

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