>> that's why this debt debate that's going on is so important. take a step back and look at that in the long view. right now you have the president desperately trying to save the economy, desperately trying to revive the economy for the working people and the republican party trying to budget the back budget on the backs of american people. >> mike, mike. >> i want to ask you a partisan question, feehery. why would you want to cut medicare for people who really need it and won't be able to buy insurance, let's be honest, and make sure that people who make $270 million a year only paying 18% in taxes. how do you justify that? >> i would like to make sure medicare doesn't take over the whole budget. and if you don't reform medicare and slow down the rate of growth from 7% or 8% to 2%, you're going to have a financial calamity. >> what about the rate of growth for the people who only pay 18% in taxes? >> i think they should pay more in taxes.