on this debt ceiling fight, have they thought at all about what this default is going to do to the rest of us? joining us now is ezra klein, columnist for "the washington post" and bloomberg and also an msnbc policy analyst. hi, ezra, it's nice to see you. >> good evening, good to be here. >> thanks, listen, so i've been watching you, you know, writing recently about boehnor one, boehnor two, we could talk about, you know, obama circa june, obama circa july. it's really a three-ring circus in washington that we're all looking at, but tell me, is there something that we should be focusing on about the effect of this default on the average american? has that been overlooked? >> it has been, look, if only this were merely a three-ring circus. turns out to have many more rings than that. the problem with the default argument, what you hear from the republicans, this is the central factor driving the debate, there are a lot of republicans in the