probably would be right to do it. even if he is wrong, he stalls the problem for a while and acted in the best interest of this country. most importantly, the president with a very good descent honorable man, there are times when you have to lead. you have to lead. and he has given them every lead way. he has retreated many, many times. he said he will do a bill without revenue as long as it gets through 2012. pat buchanan is right. pat is a pretty smart guy, al. republicans should take the deal to have a bill with no revenue through 2012. raise up the victory flag and declare victory. i believe it would be a hollow victory because i believe we fight them out in the 2012 election and kill them in the 2012 election and they can claim victory. >> the president put it all on the table. put everything they wanted on the table. but how do you talk to guys that watch ben affleck movies, get their ski mask ready and say, we