and one other point that i find very interesting is that they are making the rounds to conservative media, trying to gin up support to get enough of these tea partyers on board. they're going to hannity, they're going to limbaugh, they're going to some conservative magazines and wh whatnot. what does this say about where they are right now? >> i think they're in tremendous disarray. you just saw michele bachmann saying no way would she ever vote for a change in the debt limit. and i think that's where most of the tea party, the newew republicans stand. in which case boehner will not be able to get this doing pen and that brings us to, well, what do we do now? if we can't get a bill throughout house that has any chance of actually solving this problem. and i must say the president has put forth a very balanced plan. some of that four point trillion is actually what we've been demanding, which is, let's raise some taxes, get our money back from the oil companies, and make those wall street barons pa s p their fair share.