it's designed to find common ground between rival branches and rival parties. if they cannot do it over this, over budgets that they have already voted for, then what's the point of even voting for a budget in the first place? if you're just relitigating old agreements and votes, nothing will ever happen. >> i have to break in, but let me just review, richard, you say that he will not sign it if it got that far, michael, you say he will. >> he will. >> i say, let me provide the pen if it gets that far. it won't have any ink in it, michael. thank you both for joining me. the recession that is led to a record income gap between whites and minorities, and john boehner's debt plan would make it even worse. we'll discuss that next. and freezing out the media. where's the bachmann team first roughed up a reporter. now they have a new plan.