point about deficits and debt. despite the fact if you step over the beltedway and ask people what they care about and the polls are very clear on this, they'll tell you, of course, it's jobs. it's the economy. it's income. and you know, back a few months ago i thought the president and the white house was trying pretty hard to walk and chew gum at the same time. to emphasize a jobs agenda as well as to say our medium and long-term fiscal challenge must be met. we have to get a sustainable path, but ever since the mid-term sank in, it seems like everyone believed the way to reach voters is to cut spending, cut the deficit, and, you know, like a mass hysteria. >> this is karen finney here. here's a question about what's sort of happening, this back and forth. i clawly agree with jon stewart. it's like watching a bad relationship. at this point it seems fundamentally what we're arguing about here is one process that would be sort of a two-step approach. one process that's a one-step