recipients and that's the class warfare going on. >> -- $75 billion -- >> and you put cuts in your budget. >> you cut medicare $575 billion when you passed obama care. you made a choice to do that. >> and you made the choice to -- marcia, you put -- you made the -- marcia -- >> -- today's seniors and we're very serious in doing that, and continuing those benefits. >> you know what else you're serious about? you know what else you're serious about? did you -- did you or did you not put those same medicare reductions in your budget that you voted for under paul ryan this spring? didn't you do the same thing? >> no, we have said let's -- >> did you do the same thing? >> we said let's save medicare for today's seniors and -- >> did you or did you not -- did you or did you not include those cuts in your budget? >> those -- we have a different plan. we have a plan -- >> you're saying you didn't -- you're saying you didn't include