that's not an economic wage. >> the economic answer to this is you have to have the best education system. you have to let in some real entrepreneur people kung into this country, change immigration and america will stay at the high end of thing, but those two things aren't happening. >> they're not happening now and in the middle of all this, lots of people with nowhere to go. >> steve's point is a good point. the most salient fact of this decade, economy, we need a median decline. americans don't begrudge -- >> first time in history for a full decade. >> first time. interests, relates to the paint you make. we didn't go down from 2001, 2010, went down from 2001 to 2007, before the recession hit. if middle income don't feel the ladder keeps going up you don't have the american dream anymore. that's serious stuff. and we should all be thinking about how to deal with that.