spent in ten minutes in the stimulus in 2009, so we have to have a reduction. >> senator hagel, there was a piece in "foreign policy" on thursday, kind of summing up, again, the case against washington working. and he writes this. the headline, "americans have complained for years that their government is broken. this time they're right. look at what we've got now, a long-term debt disaster with viable bipartisan solutions on the table but ignored or cast aside in congress, an impasse over the usually perfunctory matter of raising the statutory debt limit placing the united states in jeopardy of its first ever default, sniping about guerrilla warfare over major policy steps enacted by the last congress, health care reform and financial regulation, no serious action or movement on climate change, jobs, or continuing mortgage crisis and major trade deals stalled yet again despite bipartisan and presidential support." >> well, i think where you start is with this fact. at least i believe this. politics just reflects society. and what we are seeing today, i believe, is a new, emerging governing coalition being built in this country, a new political center of gravity.