that -- and then some of the democrats are irresponsible saying that we can't touch any of those programs. in reality, if you understand the numbers of our debt, we've got to compromise on everything. and, frankly, that's way more important than whether or not i get re-elected. >> and social security, raising the retirement age, you open to it at all? >> well, i don't know that we have to raise the retirement age. i think we can look at some other things, you know. it may be that for the next generation, maybe people that still aren't born, it would go up slightly. but more importantly, you know, if you're really wealthy, should you get back all the money you paid into social security? yes, you should. but should you get more? i don't think so. i think once you get back what you paid in, that should be it if you're very wealthy. raising the cap on social security, i think tweaking of these programs in a way that is fair and progressive, i think that's the way we save medicare and social security as the benefit that so many people in america rely on, especially our seniors. >> are you going to be comfortable campaigning with