anyway, let's go on. we'll have this debate through the elections. i think it's odd you can vote if you have a gun license, but not a student i.d. cards. >> we know who the targets are. this is discriminatory against college kids. horace cooper, thank you, judi brown-dianis, thank you. a new book sheds light -- on president obama ae ining a mattic fight. who was the old man that played such a part in at least his imagination? i'm going to talk to the author when we return. this is "hardball," only on msnbc.