you're losing your credibility here, because i know older people -- >> not at all. >> older people don't drive. not at all. >> we have a lawsuit against the state of mo for for this very issue. >> here's my understanding is you can't get a driver's license. your eyesight is not good -- >> people still retain their identification cards. they don't have to go someplace and give that information um. they still need to go to the bank or grocery store. >> can i correct the record here? >> judith. >> in missouri, for example, advancement project filed a lawsuit in missouri. it's estimated that there are actually 280,000 already registered voters who are not going to be able to vote, because they don't have the proper photo identification. it has to be state-issued photo identification. we have to understand these laws